In this episode of the Security Ledger Podcast we do a deep dive into the recent Black Report by NUIX – which flips the script by asking hackers and pen testers their opinions about how they hack firms and what defensive strategies and technologies work best at stopping them. Also: Rami Sass the CEO and co-founder of this week’s sponsor, WhiteSource Software, joins us in the Security Ledger studios to talk about how a white knuckle audit of his company’s open source dependencies eight years ago prompted him to start WhiteSource, which makes a tool for managing the open source software supply chains.